There are a great deal of reasons to complain about our new shopping centre.
Firstly its not a centre its a spraulled out nightmare! There is this terible hill to get up and down with laidened trollies.Never mind pushing a full trolly up hill but try going down hill being draged by a trolly full of stuff. There is no shaded carpark area! Well the one that is there is big enough for the employees. And then there is the biggest factor of them all!!! The bloody prices!! A bloke pays $5.85 for a 2 in 1 shampoo at Cannon Hill then a couple of weeks later shops local and pays $10.65 at our local supermarket. Youve got to be jokeing!!!! Your better off going straight to the T.A.B where you at least know your being ripped but still have a chance of winning a couple of bucks. Turned me a novice shopper totally off the place so how do you proffessional mums and wives feel about the costs.
Surely the extra couple of ks out of town cant make that much difference. So why?

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the forum and I am building a house in the 'Timbertop' release of the Flagstone Estate that should be finished around the end of the year. I am particularly concerned about whether or not I'm going to be able to get ADSL (1 or 2) within this new estate. Does anyone have any information at all about whether this is going to be possible? I have looked at google maps and it looks like this new section of the Flagstone Estate is around 9km from the Jimboomba exchange, and from what I've read that seems to be too far from the exchange (aside from any other concerns) to get ADSL services. From what I've read even closer to the exchange its very much hit and miss with getting ADSL connected? Is there anyone I can talk to who might have a better idea about telecommunications provisions in this section of the new estate?

Thanks!

It's a dead set worry that in these new estates you can not get ADSL broadband with whoever you like.

The 'sweetheart' deal that Tel$tra did with the current Federal Government grants them exclusive ADSL2+ provision to anyone who is on lines capable of ADSL2+, as they do not have to give access to ADSL2+ to other ISP's, unless the other ISP's pay to have their own DSLAM's installed in the exchange, and that's highly unlikely to happen to places like Jimboomba, let alone Flagstone, Munruben, Cedar Grove, etc., due to the costs involved and little to no return on their investments.

Once the big 'T' has locked everyone in to 2 year contracts, no other ISP will invest in their own infrastructure in the exchanges for at least 2 years!

Hi,

We will be moving to Glenlogan Lakes Estate at the end of May 2008. I am wondering if there is anyone currently with Broadband access in the area, whether that be ADSL or ADSL2? From my understanding, Optusnet will not be servicing the area which limits who I choose to provide my phone line.

Cheers
Laurie

Hi i was wondering if any of you lived at Flagstone and had noticed a putrid smell at night/early mornings latley?
is Driving us crazy, i wonder what it is?

Yep, I've been saying that all the way through all these years, Councils that haven't made requirements on developers to provide proper telecommunication services in their new development.

There are two ways that you can be connected, that is direct to the exchange, or via a RIM/CMUX/ISAM/Other name. If you connect directly to the exchange, you can get ADSL2 if there is another supplier with ADSL2 equipment in the exchange. Telstra will enable ADSL2 on their equipment only if there is competition. (now with some exceptions)

If you are connected to a RIM, there are limited numbers of ports available. The number will depend on the age of the equipment, as telstra has changed suppliers. The older NEC equipment can have 500 phone lines, of which 96 can have ADSL. The newer equipment has a better ratio, approaching 1 in 2 if fully expanded.  On a RIM, you can get ADSL2 from BP only, and only if they have enabled that RIM, and with a lowered speed.

You can get ADSL1 from any supplier on a RIM or direct to the exchange. The only exception to this is that Optus has now stated that they may not support new apps on telstra only equipment.

In short:
Cause: Council approvals, Developer interested in cheapest options, Telsra playing politics (they want FTTN/FTTH as they then cut out all competition)
Solution: Speak with local council to prevent re-occurance, speak with local member, Telsra partition, organise a group to go to a competition ISP (node, TPG, Optus, iinet) to get a new DSLAM installed.

When you do get connected, look at all your options. There are ISPs that do not charge as much as telstra.

Yep, they'll help you alright, and help you lighten your load in your hip pocket at the same time. 


Once again you really need to lobby all your neighbours and work together to get ADSL in to your streets.

Actually you are very much restricted to tel$tra with ADSL2+ out this way. They have advised all parties concerned that they will not be providing ADSL2+ to anyone but bigpong clients. Very biased and unfair to everyone else... so now you'll be stuck with a piddly little download limit, where they will bill you when you go over, and with ADSL2+ speeds that'll mount up rather rapidly (remember some of the horror stories on TodayTonight with people with bogpond bills over $1000 in a month!).



Exactly the actions people need to take to get ADSL.  Sadly though most people sit back and just whinge about it, rather than getting organised to make something happen.

The Big T can help you, but it it will cost you.